Georgia Secretary of State Brad Rafensperger and the Speaker of the Arizona Chamber will testify at the committee’s fourth hearing on its findings.
WASHINGTON – Next Tuesday for the House of Representatives hearing on the Capitol attack on January 6, 2021 is the pressure that former President Donald Trump put on government officials to overturn the 2020 election results, including Trump’s notorious call for Georgia Secretary of State Brad Rafensperger.
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“Dangerous and escalating pressure campaign”: Trump’s efforts to put pressure on officials to stop the vote count “have gone to every level of federal and state-elected officials,” said Adam Schiff, D.C., at the start of the hearing. Calif. “Anyone who thwarted Donald Trump’s continued retention of power after he lost the election has been the target of a dangerous and escalating campaign of pressure.
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Bowers denies calling the election rigged: Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers, a Republican, has challenged the retelling of a conversation he was said to have had with Trump in November 2020 about the election against him. “Everywhere you look today, the tide of protectionist sentiment is flowing. That’s not going to be true, “Bowers said.
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No evidence: During Schiff’s interrogation, Bowers reminded Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani to talk about election fraud: “We have a lot of theories, we just don’t have the evidence.” Bowers added: “I don’t know if this is a blunder or maybe he didn’t think about what he said.”
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Even after rejecting requests from Trump’s inner circle to cancel the election, Bowers said he had received pressure from the then chairman of the Freedom Group.
Andy Biggs, a spokesman for R-Ariz., Called Bowers on Nov. 30, the day Arizona was due to formally award the vote in Biden’s state election, to ask if Bowers would sign a letter from his state or support the desertation. official voters, Bowers testified on Tuesday.
“I said I wouldn’t do it,” Bowers said Tuesday.
“Erin Mansfield.”
Bowers described to the commission a conversation on January 4, 2021 with one of Trump’s lawyers, in which he refused to reject the state election for Biden.
Bowers said attorney John Eastman had suggested the legislature take action and allow the courts to resolve the dispute. But Bowers reacted incredulously and refused, telling Eastman that it would break his oath.
“You are asking me to do something that has never been done in history – the history of the United States – and I will go through my country without enough evidence?” And that will be good enough for me to get us through this, my state, which I swore to abide by both the constitution and the law? “Said Bowers.” No, sir. “
“Bart Jansen.”
Bowers cited his religious beliefs as one of the reasons he refused to accept Giuliani’s request to remove Biden’s voters and replace them with Trump’s.
Bowers said the principle of his faith is that the Constitution is inspired by God. Bowers said he was concerned that Giuliani would ask him to break his oath to abide by the Constitution without offering any “strong judicial evidence” of electoral fraud.
“For me to do this because someone just asked me to do it is alien to my being,” he said. “Will not do it.”
“Michael Collins.”
Schiff said the election commission had uncovered evidence that individuals from groups such as QAnon and the Proud Boys involved in the January 6 attack had taken part in protests to “stop the theft” in state capitals.
One of the protests took place in the Arizona House of Representatives building, where protesters called Bowers by name and stood at the door armed with rifles. Protesters entered the building illegally and refused to leave, Schiff said.
A protester in the Arizona House building, “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley, was sentenced to 41 months in prison after violating the Capitol on January 6.
“Rachel Lucker.”
Giuliani wanted Arizona to hold a formal hearing to prove Trump a winner because he claimed that more than 200,000 undocumented people and 6,000 dead had voted in the election, Bowers said.
On several occasions, Bowers and other senators urged Giuliani and other Trump lawyers for names and evidence of fraud, but Giuliani never provided evidence.
“We have a lot of theories, we just don’t have the evidence,” Giuliani told them.
“I don’t know if it was a mistake or maybe he didn’t think about what he said, but I and the others in my group and my counselor remembered that specifically and laughed about it,” Bowers said.
“Catherine Swartz.”
Bowers told the commission that he had told Trump and his aides that he could not ask the state legislature to simply give him electoral votes after Trump lost the Biden state vote.
The idea of even considering it was “completely foreign” to him, Bowers testified, and he would not have received it.
Bowers said he told the Trump team, “You’re asking me to do something that goes against my oath and the laws of Arizona.”
“David Jackson.”
Arizona State House Speaker Rusty Bowers said he had denied Rudy Giuliani’s request to hold a hearing on evidence of electoral fraud – evidence that Bowers Giuliani did not provide.
“I refused,” Bowers testified. “I didn’t want to be used as a pawn.”
Bowers said “the circus has evolved” with many demonstrations about the election results “and I didn’t want to have that in the House.”
“Maureen Gropp.”
Bowers said he repeatedly asked Giuliani for proof of electoral fraud, but did not receive it.
Bowers said he spoke to Trump and Giuliani on the phone when Giuliani began counting large numbers of people who voted, but shouldn’t have – as undocumented immigrants and dead people – when he asked, “Do you have their names?”
Bowers said that Giuliani told him yes and that Trump told Giuliani to give him what he wanted. Bowers said he “never” received the information he asked for, even though he asked for the information “several times”.
“Erin Mansfield.”
Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers began his testimony by directly denying Tuesday’s former Trump’s allegation that Bowers said the 2020 election was rigged.
Trump issued a statement minutes before Bowers’ appearance, saying the two spoke on the phone in November 2020, saying Bowers called the election rigged. Bowers, who is campaigning with Trump, confirmed that he spoke with Trump, but said the parts the former president quoted were incorrect.
Bowers also denied Trump’s claim that he won Arizona instead of Biden. “That’s also not true,” Bowers said.
“Bart Jansen.”
Pennsylvania Speaker Brian Cutler received daily voice messages from Trump’s lawyers in the last week of November.
“Hey, Brian, it’s Rudy. I really need to pay attention to something important that I think is changing things,” former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said in a recorded voice message heard during the hearing.
Cutler asked his lawyers, Giuliani, to stop calling, but the conversation continued. He said there were numerous protests after him at his home and district office. His personal email, mobile and home phone are shared online.
“We had to turn off our home phone for about three days because it was ringing all night and it would be full of messages,” Cutler said.
“Rachel Lucker.”
Schiff said that Trump’s intense campaign of pressure on government officials “brought angry phone calls and text messages, armed protests, intimidation and all too often threats of violence and death.”
The pressure campaign highlighted specific elected officials and workers. On January 6, the commission released a video of Trump protesters chanting “stop the theft” in front of Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson’s house. Protesters called Benson a “tyrant” and a “criminal.”
Benson told the committee: “The uncertainty was fear. Do they come with weapons? Will they attack my house? I’m here with my child, you know, I’m trying to put them to sleep. So, it was the scariest moment, just not knowing what was going to happen. “
“Kenneth Tran.”
In his introductory remarks to the committee, Representative Adam Schiff spoke of the layers of pressure that Trump is exerting on election commissioners and state lawmakers in key states.
Trump began putting pressure on states to stop counting on election day. He then put more pressure on employees who refused to certify him as a winner in the fortunes he lost. When government officials refused to return to the session to appoint Trump voters, Trump “increased the pressure” once again, Schiff said.
“Anyone who thwarted Trump’s continued retention of power after he lost the election was the subject of a dangerous and escalating campaign of pressure. “This campaign of pressure has led to angry phone calls and text messages, armed protests, intimidation and all too often threats of violence and death,” Schiff said.
“Catherine Swartz.”
Cheney said the former Trump did not care that his false allegations of electoral fraud led to threats of violence.
“Donald Trump was not interested in threats of violence,” Cheney said. “He did not condemn them. He made no effort to stop them. In any case, he continued with his false allegations. “
Cheney urged viewers to watch the hearings to focus on the evidence and not be distracted by politics. “This is serious,” she said. “We cannot allow America to become a nation of conspiracy theories and thug violence.
“Michael Collins.”
In his opening remarks, MP Liz Cheney, R-Wyo, said Trump’s pressure on officials in Georgia, Arizona and other states to reverse his election losses by Joe Biden should be condemned by all – including Justice Department investigators. .
“Each of these efforts to cancel the election is independent …
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